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Assassination vs Subtlety Rogue

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Two level 60 Rogue builds side by side: 25 talents differ and 8 are the same.

The two builds

Build A: Assassination Rogue

Our pick — opinionAssassination leveling build

39/12/0

Level: 60
Points: 51 of 51

16-point milestones

Cold Blood

Build B: Subtlety Rogue

Our pick — opinionSubtlety leveling build

20/0/31

Level: 60
Points: 51 of 51

16-point milestones

Cold Blood
Premeditation

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Both builds are our leveling picks: opinion, not confirmed by Blizzard. Why we picked them: Rogue leveling guide

Differences: 25 talents

Assassination6 differences · 39 points in A, 20 in B

Talent	Rank	Rank	What the extra ranks give
Vile Poisons. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 5/5	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 5: Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 20% and gives your poisons an additional 40% chance to resist dispel effects.
Improved Poisons. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 5/5	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 5: Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 10%, and gives Poison applications a 50% chance to not consume a charge.
Vigor. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 2/2	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 2: Increases your maximum Energy by 10.
Venom. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 1/1	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 1: Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 seconds 2 points: 12 seconds 3 points: 15 seconds 4 points: 18 seconds 5 points: 21 seconds
Seal Fate. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 5/5	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 5: Your critical strikes from abilities that add Combo Points have a 100% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Mutilate. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 1/1	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 1: Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

Combat5 differences · 12 points in A, 0 in B

Talent	Rank	Rank	What the extra ranks give
Improved Eviscerate. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 3/3	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 3: Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 21%.
Improved Sinister Strike. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 2/2	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 2: Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.
Puncturing Wounds. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 3/3	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 3: Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 30% and your Mutilate by 15%, and gives Backstab a 45% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Deflection. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 1/3	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 1: Increases your Parry chance by 2%.
Precision. Only build A takes it.	Build A: 3/3	Build B: not taken	Build A, rank 3: Increases your chance to hit with all attacks and Poisons by 3%.

Subtlety14 differences · 0 points in A, 31 in B

Talent	Rank	Rank	What the extra ranks give
Camouflage. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 5/5	Build B, rank 5: Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 10 sec.
Opportunity. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 2/2	Build B, rank 2: Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.
Elusiveness. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 2/2	Build B, rank 2: Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 1.5 min.
Improved Ambush. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 3/3	Build B, rank 3: Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.
Initiative. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 3/3	Build B, rank 3: Gives you a 99% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
Ghostly Strike. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/1	Build B, rank 1: A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.
Heightened Senses. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/2	Build B, rank 1: Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 1 level higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 2%.
Premeditation16-point milestone. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/1	Build B, rank 1: Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
Serrated Blades. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 3/3	Build B, rank 3: Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.
Dirty Deeds. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 2/2	Build B, rank 2: Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.
Preparation. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/1	Build B, rank 1: When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
Hemorrhage. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/1	Build B, rank 1: An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.
Quietus. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 5/5	Build B, rank 5: Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 2% more damage against targets below 35% health. Per-rank values are unconfirmed.
Thousand Cuts. Only build B takes it.	Build A: not taken	Build B: 1/1	Build B, rank 1: When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.